| Ideas Of God: Traditional Christianity Makes No Sense |
IDEAS OF GOD: TRADITIONAL CHRISTIAN TEACHINGS DO NOT MAKE SENSE
by LC
Ideas Of God Con'td...
Why wouldn't God just create those with freewill, whom He knew would eventually choose Him?
This is where the traditional "hell doctrine" falls apart: If God is all-knowing and still created
beings whom He would have to punish and in essence destroy for an eternity, why create them
at all, unless God simply is evil? God would have to be evil and not truth; for truth is unchanging
and eternal. How could a perfect God of truth unjustly create evil which must be destroyed? The
creation of evil then would have come from Him? His fault, ultimately, if you believe traditional
christian teachings. It cannot be so:
"God is perfectly just and yet, He sentences the imperfect humans He created to infinite
suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offence does not warrant unlimited punishment.
God's sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin
is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is
even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human perfection (would then be) is
God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences His imperfect creation to infinite
punishment for finite sins is impossible."
Something must be wrong with this picture painted by the religious leaders concerning God and
man. It just does not make sense when one looks close to the teachings of the christian
religion. Jesus had to see through this and have a different message...and indeed he did! He
taught us that this world is an illusion...that the kingdom of God is within us. He taught us
that peace and truth can be found within all of us when we connect with our heavenly Father
within our very being. He taught that hell is a state of mind that can be undone. That was the
message of the cross: I will take on the mis-thinking that the world believes (sin of the world),
and I will show you it (mis-thinking, false beliefs) does not eternally change who I am; nor will it
eternally change who you are, either. Still believe in an eternal hell? Consider this:
"Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard
of the 'gospel of Jesus Christ' (as taught by men today in error). Consider the people who have
naturally adhered to the religions of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do so
since birth. If we are to believe the christian (teachings concerning hell), all of these people will
perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind and
generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the
gospel of Jesus (at least what men today say that message was), they are condemned. No just
God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions."
3) Many christians follow a book and not their heart. They believe the bible to be the "word of
God," yet, it is very clear in the bible (John 1), that the word of God is not a book, but the Holy
Spirit; for the word of God is God! Can a book be God? To some it has become just that, but let
our atheist give us a strong argument that the bible is not God's word from another perspective:
"The bible is supposedly God's perfect word (as taught by traditional christian doctrines). It
contains instructions to humankind for avoiding the eternal fires of hell. How wonderful and kind
of this God to provide us with this means of overcoming the problems for which He is ultimately
responsible! The all-powerful God could have, by a mere act of will, eliminated all of the
problems we humans must endure, but instead, in His infinite wisdom, He has opted to offer this
indecipherable amalgam of books which is the bible, as a means for avoiding the hell which He
has prepared for us. The perfect God has decided to reveal His wishes in this imperfect work,
written in the imperfect language of imperfect men, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on,
and related by imperfect men. No two men will ever agree what this perfect word of God is
supposed to mean, since much of it is either self-contradictory, or obscured by enigmatic
symbols. And yet, the perfect God expects us imperfect humans to understand this paradoxical
riddle using the imperfect minds with which He has equipped us. Surely, the all-wise and
all-powerful God would have known that it would have been better to reveal His perfect will
directly to each of us, rather than to allow it to be debased and perverted by the imperfect
language and botched interpretations of man."
If you do not yet see that the bible is interpreted many different ways by men, simply look out at
all the different translations and "church" buildings on the corners of almost every street in this
country. How many different denominations and churches does it take for us to realize, we are
divided, separated by beliefs and lost from following a supposed perfect book, and not the spirit
of God speaking to our hearts individually? Even the atheist can see that God speaking to us
individually would be Divine! More from our atheist regarding bible contradictions and how God
has been interpreted and portrayed by men:
Ideas of God (Continued)
by LC
Ideas Of God Con'td...
Why wouldn't God just create those with freewill, whom He knew would eventually choose Him?
This is where the traditional "hell doctrine" falls apart: If God is all-knowing and still created
beings whom He would have to punish and in essence destroy for an eternity, why create them
at all, unless God simply is evil? God would have to be evil and not truth; for truth is unchanging
and eternal. How could a perfect God of truth unjustly create evil which must be destroyed? The
creation of evil then would have come from Him? His fault, ultimately, if you believe traditional
christian teachings. It cannot be so:
"God is perfectly just and yet, He sentences the imperfect humans He created to infinite
suffering in hell for finite sins. Clearly, a limited offence does not warrant unlimited punishment.
God's sentencing of the imperfect humans to an eternity in hell for a mere mortal lifetime of sin
is infinitely more unjust than this punishment. The absurd injustice of this infinite punishment is
even greater when we consider that the ultimate source of human perfection (would then be) is
God who created them. A perfectly just God who sentences His imperfect creation to infinite
punishment for finite sins is impossible."
Something must be wrong with this picture painted by the religious leaders concerning God and
man. It just does not make sense when one looks close to the teachings of the christian
religion. Jesus had to see through this and have a different message...and indeed he did! He
taught us that this world is an illusion...that the kingdom of God is within us. He taught us
that peace and truth can be found within all of us when we connect with our heavenly Father
within our very being. He taught that hell is a state of mind that can be undone. That was the
message of the cross: I will take on the mis-thinking that the world believes (sin of the world),
and I will show you it (mis-thinking, false beliefs) does not eternally change who I am; nor will it
eternally change who you are, either. Still believe in an eternal hell? Consider this:
"Consider all of the people who live in the remote regions of the world who have never even heard
of the 'gospel of Jesus Christ' (as taught by men today in error). Consider the people who have
naturally adhered to the religions of their parents and nation as they had been taught to do so
since birth. If we are to believe the christian (teachings concerning hell), all of these people will
perish in the eternal fire for not believing in Jesus. It does not matter how just, kind and
generous they have been with their fellow humans during their lifetime: if they do not accept the
gospel of Jesus (at least what men today say that message was), they are condemned. No just
God would ever judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions."
3) Many christians follow a book and not their heart. They believe the bible to be the "word of
God," yet, it is very clear in the bible (John 1), that the word of God is not a book, but the Holy
Spirit; for the word of God is God! Can a book be God? To some it has become just that, but let
our atheist give us a strong argument that the bible is not God's word from another perspective:
"The bible is supposedly God's perfect word (as taught by traditional christian doctrines). It
contains instructions to humankind for avoiding the eternal fires of hell. How wonderful and kind
of this God to provide us with this means of overcoming the problems for which He is ultimately
responsible! The all-powerful God could have, by a mere act of will, eliminated all of the
problems we humans must endure, but instead, in His infinite wisdom, He has opted to offer this
indecipherable amalgam of books which is the bible, as a means for avoiding the hell which He
has prepared for us. The perfect God has decided to reveal His wishes in this imperfect work,
written in the imperfect language of imperfect men, translated, copied, interpreted, voted on,
and related by imperfect men. No two men will ever agree what this perfect word of God is
supposed to mean, since much of it is either self-contradictory, or obscured by enigmatic
symbols. And yet, the perfect God expects us imperfect humans to understand this paradoxical
riddle using the imperfect minds with which He has equipped us. Surely, the all-wise and
all-powerful God would have known that it would have been better to reveal His perfect will
directly to each of us, rather than to allow it to be debased and perverted by the imperfect
language and botched interpretations of man."
If you do not yet see that the bible is interpreted many different ways by men, simply look out at
all the different translations and "church" buildings on the corners of almost every street in this
country. How many different denominations and churches does it take for us to realize, we are
divided, separated by beliefs and lost from following a supposed perfect book, and not the spirit
of God speaking to our hearts individually? Even the atheist can see that God speaking to us
individually would be Divine! More from our atheist regarding bible contradictions and how God
has been interpreted and portrayed by men:
Ideas of God (Continued)
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"Did you ever notice
Jesus only attacked
religious leaders and
never the common
people? Is it any
wonder that so many
doctrines and
denominations of
Christianity exist today?
Could it be that leaders
never understood
Jesus' true message as
parables needing to be
interpreted spiritually,
and not literally?"
-LC
Jesus only attacked
religious leaders and
never the common
people? Is it any
wonder that so many
doctrines and
denominations of
Christianity exist today?
Could it be that leaders
never understood
Jesus' true message as
parables needing to be
interpreted spiritually,
and not literally?"
-LC